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Falconer Heads with Ti Valves assembled and also my build

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:27 pm
by coinage
i bought a set of heads and valves off of will a while back, well i got them back from the machine shop today and thought id post some pics up

Falconer race heads-ported
Ti valves w/ 5 angle valve job
crane springs, retainers, locks
intake + exhaust seals
1.6 summit full roller rockers

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I guess ill just post everything here..

these heads are going on my 3400 block with stock internals.. we(me and my brother ((eric/coinball))) are still undecided if we are going DIS or a dist setup. it will be turbo'd anlong with custom headers/ y-pipe. not sure what else to put, but i guess i can update whenever..


some of the basics
-86GT 4sp w/ custom rear 88 suspension
-3400 w/ 2.8 topend
-Garrett Ball Bearing T3/60-1
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merch ... y_Code=GTB
-custom A/W IC
-Quartermaster twin disk racing clutch and flywheel
-4pt. cage by Doug Chase
-42lb/hr injectors

some other goodies
-APEXI AVC-r boost controller
-Zeitronix WB with boost and EGT sensors
prob other stuff im forgetting about


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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:55 pm
by eHoward
pretty

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:13 pm
by donk_316
Awesome! coolest heads ever for a PR 60 V6

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:07 am
by Shaun41178(2)
Now the 20k dollar question is, Did you ask your machinist to weigh a stock valve vs the TI one so we know how much less it is?

They look good. Can't wait till you get that project done. Its going to rip.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:41 am
by fieronews
They look awsome.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:15 am
by Chris-Nelson
OMG i'm going to cry if I don't get a set of these!
That looks awesome
Mind handing over the part numbers of the equipment that you used to rebuild it with?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:27 am
by p8ntman442
Shaun, look up the material properties of ti and steel, and you can get a good idea of how much weight is saved, since both valves are the same dimensions. You just have to weigh a set of stock alves to see how much is there.

In case he didnt weigh them.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:28 am
by p8ntman442
donk_316 wrote:Awesome! coolest cast iron heads ever for a PR 60 V6

Couldn't agree more. Those heads are fantastic.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:40 am
by Dirty Sanchez
I noticed from those pictires that those heads don't have the "shark fins" in the intake openings. I'll be curious to see the dyno figures on this build. Some people say that removing the fins will cost you horsepower. My heads don't have them neither. Here is an old picture of mine.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:19 am
by Kohburn
Dirty Sanchez wrote:I noticed from those pictires that those heads don't have the "shark fins" in the intake openings. I'll be curious to see the dyno figures on this build. Some people say that removing the fins will cost you horsepower. My heads don't have them neither. Here is an old picture of mine.
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actually you can see it in this pic http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9975 ... tedef9.jpg

but its ground down in side.. doesn;t need to be as big as stock - knife edging it and shrinkingit some is good for flow

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:02 pm
by coinage
sorry guys didnt have my machine guy weigh them.

Chris-Nelson- i am at class right now but i can get you the #'s tonight

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:16 pm
by stimpy
You need to get some polycarbonate valve covers (bulletproof glass) to show those sexy rockers off.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:26 pm
by p8ntman442
stimpy wrote:You need to get some polycarbonate valve covers (bulletproof glass) to show those sexy rockers off.
SEX

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:35 pm
by p8ntman442
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LINK TO SITE OF SECOND PIC

who wants to make these?

MECHANICAL PROPERTIES:
Specific gravity (ASTM D 792) : 1.20
Tensile strength, Ultimate (ASTM D 638) : 9,000 p.s.i.
Elongation at break (ASTM D 638) : 130%
Tensile modulus (ASTM D 638) : 3.1x10~5 p.s.i.
Rockwell hardness (ASTM D 785) : R118
Impact strength (73° F) (ASTM D 256) (notched) : 17.0 ft-lb/inch
Flexural strength (ASTM D 790) : 14,200 p.s.i.
Flexural modulus (ASTM D 790) : 3.4x 10~5 p.s.i.
Wear factor against steel 40 psi 50fpm : 2500x10~10
Coefficient of friction 40psi 50fpm : 0.38 Dynamic

THERMAL PROPERTIES:
Melting point : 310° F
Heat deflection at 66 psi (ASTM D 648) : 285° F
Heat deflection at 264 psi (ASTM D 648) : 270° F
Maximum serving temperature for short term : 275° F
Maximum serving temperature for long term : 240° F
Thermal conductivity (ASTM C 177) : 1.35 Btu-inch/hr-ft~2- ° F
Specific heat : 0.30 Btu/lb- ° F
Coefficient of linear thermal expansion (ASTM D 696) : 3.7x10~5
Applicable temperature range for thermal expansion : 0-200° F

Glass filled brings the coefficient of thermal expansion down 75%. Not sure of the melting point of glass filled though.

source: http://www.sdplastics.com/polycarb.html

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:07 pm
by Aaron
I LOVE clear covers like that. I was/am seriously contemplating using a plexiglass cover on my ITBs, so you can see the throttle plates and the fuel spraying in and such.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:18 pm
by Series8217
HOw long does it take before they get all yellowed up and gross from oil and heat?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:57 pm
by Aaron
Show cars don't get hot :la:

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:23 pm
by p8ntman442
just have an alluminum insert to use 95% of the time, and use the clear for show. They will be full of oil vapor when running after a little while.

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:54 pm
by Formula69
Aaron wrote:Show cars don't get hot :la:
Then build a full scale plastic model engine and push the bitch off the trailer when you get to your shows.

It'd dyno about the same as what you're gonna build anyway.

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:12 am
by coinage
sorry for the wait

crane #'s are:

Valve locks 11/32" - CRN-99041-1 ($9.50)
Valve Springs - CRN-99848-12 ($65.69)
Retainers - CRN-99915-12 ($53.99)
SBC 1.6 SELFALIGN R ROCKER 3/8 - SUM-G6936-16 ($249.95)
12PC ROCKER ARM STUD KIT - ARP-100-7201 ($45.39)
CHEVY V6 2.8L 60-DEG 11MM 12PT(Head studs) - ARP-233-4303 ($95.69)

be ready to spend some cash, ~$600 for heads and valves, $400+ on machine work/assembly, and $500+ for the things above