Cold air intake, can you have too much of a good thing?

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:44 pm

Well, I got 'er done! I've got a case of big shit eating perma grin from the bansheE whine she puts out at 3000 rpm, but I'll tell you what's up first.
First off, I had no idea that 4" pipe can't bend. So, Howard was counting on flexibility of the hose to get it through. After looking at my really thick rubber hose that I got yesterday, and the bend it needed to make, he also discovered that my K&N was only a 3.5" and not a 4". Don't ask me, I had a ruler with me when I bought it. So now he had to find a 3.5 inch pipe. All he had was a chrome exhaust tip for a truck. He welded that to a short length of 4" and we stuffed MONGO filter up in the fender. To give you an idea, the filter is sitting probably at 15 degrees off of vertical, and it completely fills the space between the exterior panel and the inner panel.

The hose that I picked up this afternoon looks like the shite drier hose that I had in the picture, but it's really a nice heavy rubber like a thin innertube material with a wire through it. Nice. A freebie cause I'm a hell of a guy.

I can not WAIT to put this on a dyno now that I've been doing the recent tuning on it. It's been so little, but it really feels noticably different. I doubt it will have any (or much) effect on peak numbers, but I'd like to see how it fills out the curve.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:01 pm

I thought you were going to replace the tube all the way up to the TB with a aluminum tube. I dint' think you were going to have that much of a black rubber tube on there. When you said coupler I was just thinking like somethng 3 inches long to join the tb and the peice of aluminum pipe.

Looks good though.

And if you do plan on going back to the dyno, put some 93 in it, disco the battery for a few minutes, plugs it back in and then drive it for a day or two to let the computer relearn on the 93. Then dyno it.

You are right taht filter = Teh large

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:27 pm

Yeah, I thought so too. But that would have required a mandrel bend, and he can't bend anything bigger then 3". Fabricating some kind of elbow would have been $$$, looked like shit, and probably not added any benefit. I actualy like the fact that it almost looks OEM to someone who doesn't know what they are looking at.

And yeah, that filter = 2x stock Fiero V6 filter. I think I'll sell them to people for $100 to put on there rubber truck hoses.

BTW, he has that rubber tubing in diameters down to 2.5" if you're still looking for a Duke tube.

The Dark Side of Will · Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:01 am

Don't necessarily need to unplug the computer. The OBDII computers include an octane test which is performed sometime shortly after the engine enters closed loop.

Blue Shift · Post by **Blue Shift** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:14 pm

"OMFG lololololol Stimpy, don't you know, cold air intakes are totally for ricers! OMFG you're such a ricer lolololol."

J/k dude. Looks pretty well done. How much did it change how you hear the blower?

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:00 am

Oh dude, it's unreal. I never really heard the blower before. I used to always wonder what the big deal was that people where always talking about the blower whine. You can definately hear it sucking at idle, but at 3000 rpm it just HOWLS! The car just jumps off the throttle. Between the new IAC, the new O2 sensor, and the intake, this bitch runs better then it ever has since the swap was done. My dad might regret selling it when he checks this out.

Mach10 · Post by **Mach10** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:02 am

Hmm... Maybe you just left a drill running in your engine bay?

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:10 am

For posterity's sake and future reference, some pics.

The stock V6 K&N next to the box the new one came in. Yep, it's really twice as big.

You're not going to fit more pipe through that hole without cutting.

Like it was made to go there.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:38 pm

those second set of pics are much better. Thansk for sharing.

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:17 pm

Just a question for you guys.

I am buying Rus544's K&N he was using for his N*. It has a 3.5" inlet.

My N* TB is 4" outter diameter, but the butterfly its self isn't that big. The 3.5" K&N should flow plenty right?

Here is the same K&N on summit's site

K&N

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:27 pm

it'll be enoguh

Chase Race · Post by **Chase Race** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:28 pm

stimpy wrote:BTW, anybody want a lightly used (<1year old) K&N for the stock V6 airbox?

Yep. Email me.

dgzfiero · Post by **dgzfiero** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 pm

Looking good. I gotta get off my ass and get restarted on mine.
Where is the IAT sensor hooked up at on your setup?

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Chase Race wrote:
stimpy wrote:BTW, anybody want a lightly used (<1year old) K&N for the stock V6 airbox?
Yep. Email me.

I got to write emails? Too hard.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:01 pm

dgzfiero wrote:Looking good. I gotta get off my ass and get restarted on mine.
Where is the IAT sensor hooked up at on your setup?

You know me and my familiarity with sensors. Is this what you're talking about?

Chase Race · Post by **Chase Race** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:39 am

stimpy wrote:
Chase Race wrote:
stimpy wrote:BTW, anybody want a lightly used (<1year old) K&N for the stock V6 airbox?
Yep. Email me.
I got to write emails? Too hard.

I understand. In that case, take a piece of paper and write down how much money you want me to send you. Then take this piece of paper and put it in a box, along with the air filter, and mail it to:

Chase Race
16809 W. Snoqualmie Valley Rd.
Duvall, WA 98019

Is that easier?

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:51 pm

:thumbleft:

dgzfiero · Post by **dgzfiero** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:35 pm

Yup thats the sensor.

Chase Race · Post by **Chase Race** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:49 pm

The thread hijack continues...

So I recieved a package in the mail the other day:

I was disappointed that it only turned out to be the air filter from Stimpy. The worst part is that now that I know "Cyndi" is Stimpy I'm going to have to throw away everything I've already recieved from her panty drawer.

I feel so unclean now.

Stimpy, you crack me up, dude. :thumbleft:

Oh, and you forgot this part:

Chase Race wrote:...take a peice of paper and write down how much money you want me to send you.

I'll be out of town for a few days but I'll mail your $$ when I get back.

VEGAS BABY!!!

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:16 pm

I left the $ part out because I'm not trippin. You're going to Vegas for SEMA? So am I, bitch! I'll PM you my cel # and we'll have to hook up down there.