Wow. Unbelievable.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:38 pm

http://www.nbc30.com/news/10660814/detail.html#

Read this story, and tell me if someone is a hero because they can hit a lot of baseballs or throw a lot of touchdowns. This guy made a split desicsion to let go of the hands of his two little girls and jump in the way of death to save some stranger's life. This guy should be set for life if we have any priorities as a society. I can't see how his money will ever be good in New York again.

I'm actually verklempt.

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:45 pm

Yeah, that's crazy. I mean how would you know there's enough room under the subway for two people? (Or ONE person?) Jesus....

Dirty Sanchez · Post by **Dirty Sanchez** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:43 pm

How many people would risk their own safety and life to save another's? This guy is truly a real hero. :thumbleft:

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:18 pm

Awesome. I hope he's still in the reserves so his CO can put him up for a medal.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:21 pm

Hitting baseballs and throwing touchdowns doesn't directly save a person's life...In fact, I'd be shocked if it indirectly saved anyone's life.

He should not be financially "reimbursed" for his actions. That action should be taken by any moral person, assuming no other lives are put at risk by the action, and that their safety is first (ie knowing there is room underneath a subway train). Obviously it was not the first action for the hundreds of other selfish fucks who would rather stand there and watch the incoherent disabled person die than risk their own life.

Now I would not have done the same, unless I knew there was room for people under subways. I did not. I do now, and will do the same if ever the occasion arises. Not like you all will believe me, but I can honestly say I would risk, to a point, my life to save another's. That is my definition of a hero.

whipped · Post by **whipped** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:33 pm

Aaron wrote:Now I would not have done the same, unless I knew there was room for people under subways. I did not. I do now, and will do the same if ever the occasion arises.

All the trains are different.

Still think the same way?

product1620 · Post by **product1620** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:09 pm

see, Im the kind of dumbass who would've got hit by the train, because I would have tried to pull him up instead of push him down.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:12 pm

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_003202748.html

The trough, used for drainage, is typically about 12 inches deep but can be as shallow as 8 or as deep as 24.

How thick are two people on top of each other? Even skinny folks? No, that's not a safe bet. Not that I'm trying to talk you out of jumping in front of subway trains...

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:22 am

stimpy wrote:Not that I'm trying to talk you out of jumping in front of subway trains...

:rotflmao:

TrotFox · Post by **TrotFox** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:01 am

product1620 wrote:see, Im the kind of dumbass who would've got hit by the train, because I would have tried to pull him up instead of push him down.

:withstupid:

That man just proved he has bigger cajones than most anyone I know. The the possible exception being Mayhem, rest his bullet-taking soul. We never knew how serious he was about saying he'd take a bullet for his friends until he did so.

Trot, the awed, fox...

Pyrthian · Post by **Pyrthian** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:18 am

well, it depends on who's calling who a hero.

I dont know many people who actually think a sports guy, a actor/actress, or a singer is a "hero". famous =/= hero.
hero =/= rich.

money is the root of all evil. so, associating hero with evil doesnt work out to well.

a sports guy might be a hero to the Nike corp.

88GTneverfinsihed · Post by **88GTneverfinsihed** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:42 am

Trump paid him, so did a lot of others from what the news says. Those little girls are going to college.

Balls that big it must hurt to walk.

slow'n'steady · Post by **slow'n'steady** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:15 pm

OK, now that guy is awesome for doing what he did!! However how often do we over look the people who save peoples lives everyday? you got fire fighters, Police officers, surgeons (sp?) etc... Granted they do get paid to do it however they are still saving lives everyday.

DiggityBiggity · Post by **DiggityBiggity** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:20 pm

slow'n'steady wrote:OK, now that guy is awesome for doing what he did!! However how often do we over look the people who save peoples lives everyday? you got fire fighters, Police officers, surgeons (sp?) etc... Granted they do get paid to do it however they are still saving lives everyday.

Surgeons are not doing it at their own risk... the others you mentioned are... however... what this man did was just gut reaction... that's what makes a hero, he didn't think me might die... he just knew he had to do something

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:56 am

slow'n'steady wrote:OK, now that guy is awesome for doing what he did!! However how often do we over look the people who save peoples lives everyday? you got fire fighters, Police officers, surgeons (sp?) etc... Granted they do get paid to do it however they are still saving lives everyday.

a large majority of fire fighters are volunteer only and get overlooked every day

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:35 am

Remember, this guy was standing on the platform WITH HIS KIDS. I have a huge admiration for firefighters, and this guy could have called the firemen to clean up the mess like the rest of us would have. Instead, he acted.

How a train could go over his balls, let alone 2 people, is amazing.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:29 pm

no doubt - but it just seems out of place for random people to throw financial rewards at him for it -

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:12 pm

Why should it? If people are moved to reach out to him in that manner, why should that be "out of place"? Especially when for those people that money means so little and for him it is significant to change his situation in life.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:19 pm

stimpy wrote:Why should it? If people are moved to reach out to him in that manner, why should that be "out of place"? Especially when for those people that money means so little and for him it is significant to change his situation in life.

because for people like trump its more about the publicity - they want to help hero's financially thn they should pitch in to more of them by giving funds to organizations that take care of the hospital bills of the heros that protect us every day.

just saying that this sort of attention is not much different than what is given to the "stars" (granted he deserves it a lot more) - people always focus on the individual and not a group of people that risk themselves every day. I'm not saying this guy doesn't deserve praise. but there are others that deserve it more and don't get any.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:48 pm

Cynic.

I don't think you give the average Joe Citizen his proper due. I think that especially after 9/11 and Murrah Building bombing, firefighters have been seared into the collective conscious of the icon of heroism. I think if you ask most people if firefighters are overpaid or underpaid, they would say the latter. I think they could pretty much get whatever they wanted, as far as the attitude of the average citizen.