G6 transmission

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:04 pm

Using the 6 speed, you have to use different 1/2 shafts, yes? Is GM that cool to where the Fiero shafts fit by chance (or design)? Anyone know? If not, What shafts do you use?

Series8217 · Post by **Series8217** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:06 pm

I do know that the Fiero shafts do not work.

dratts · Post by **dratts** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:09 pm

There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:39 pm

dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.

So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:57 pm

EBSB52 wrote:
dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?

Yes, the axle issues are major. V8Archie is V8 Archee.

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:33 pm

Indy wrote:
EBSB52 wrote:
dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?
Yes, the axle issues are major. V8Archie is V8 Archee.

Is it expensive?

crzyone · Post by **crzyone** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:43 am

Eb, what the heck are you doing out of anything goes???

Fastback86 · Post by **Fastback86** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:30 am

I thought I remember one of the guys who did and Ecotec conversion (wtfb maybe?) saying that the Fiero 4spd axles fit perfect in the G6 transmission...anyone else remember?

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:57 am

If he did he doesn't know what he's talking about. All the Fiero stickshift axles are the same.

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:58 am

crzyone wrote:Eb, what the heck are you doing out of anything goes???

I'm lost :scratch:

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:09 am

you have to get someone to make custom half shaft using the g6 inner joint and the fiero outter cv joint and sticking a new custom shaft int he middle. not really difficult.
that hardest part is just finding someone that will do it.

dratts · Post by **dratts** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:58 am

V8Archie want $1700 for the installation kit which includes the axles. He hasn't done a N* yet, but says he's willing if he gets the dimensions of the clutch flywheel etc. The G6 uses a dual mass flywheel.

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:30 pm

Kohburn wrote:you have to get someone to make custom half shaft using the g6 inner joint and the fiero outter cv joint and sticking a new custom shaft int he middle. not really difficult.
that hardest part is just finding someone that will do it.

Yea, that makes great sense and easy. Actually you could get the tube, cut and fit it and have it welded; yes/no??? Any special tube or just steel 1.5 times thicker wall than the stock fiero.

EBSB52 · Post by **EBSB52** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:31 pm

dratts wrote:V8Archie want $1700 for the installation kit which includes the axles. He hasn't done a N* yet, but says he's willing if he gets the dimensions of the clutch flywheel etc. The G6 uses a dual mass flywheel.

Ouch :bootyshake: . H+Just curious, why would the clutch matter for teh 1/2 shafts? The wall thickness?

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:56 pm

Think about Rchee's primary market... I think his flywheels use the Chevy ring gear in the Chevy location with the Fiero clutch bolt pattern.

He's got to do a whole lot of shennanigans in order to get his 17 year old flywheel design to work with the new deeper bellhousing that the G6 transmission has.

On the bright side, it does have a deep enough bellhousing for a three disk Tilton.

Boscolingus · Post by **Boscolingus** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:09 pm

so what would be the breakdown?

- axles made, no big deal WCF has them made up for the 3800 kits all day long

- mounts and brackets, once again see above

- shift cables

- shifter

- flywheel

- clutch kit

- details regarding speedo

- and of course the transmission

did I miss anything?

Boscolingus · Post by **Boscolingus** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:30 pm

FGP Germany F40 (MT2) ---- Pontiac G6 Transmission

Type:
transverse front wheel drive, six-speed manual transaxle

Engine range:
3.9L HVV6 (LZ9)

Maximum engine torque:
245 lb-ft (333 Nm)

Maximum gearbox torque:
295 lb-ft (400 Nm)

Gear ratios:
MT2

First:
3.77

Second:
2.04

Third:
1.32

Fourth:
0.95

Fifth:
0.76

Sixth:
0.62

Reverse:
3.54

Final drive
3.55

Maximum validated gross vehicle weight:
3527 lb (1600 kg)

Case material:
aluminum

Center distance:
197 mm

Fluid type:
Castrol BOT 0063

Transmission weight:
56 kg (123.5 lb)

Fluid capacity (approximate):
3.1L / 3.27 qt (dry)

Power take off:
no

Applications:
Pontiac G6

check out..... http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/ ... s.html#mt2

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:50 pm

Boscolingus wrote: 3.77

2.04

1.32

0.95

0.76

0.62

Final drive
3.55

Who comes up with these shitty ridiculous gear ratios? Dam.

p8ntman442 · Post by **p8ntman442** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:02 pm

well incase you lose 5th you have 6th. WTF is the point besides saying 6spd to compete with nissan and the like?

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:05 pm

GM doesn't understand a lot of things. Among them are small FWD cars and manual transmissions.