Aluminum Radiator question.

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Trying to watch this thread again...They mysterically stopped sending me emails for this one...
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The Dark Side of Will wrote: Ahh... well the radiator is cradled above and below in sheet metal pieces that are bent up for a radiator of that thickness. It has rubber isolators for a radiator of that thickness. The isolators seat on the joints between the core and the end tanks on the top and bottom edges. If you can keep the length of that joint the same as stock, and the spacing between them the same as stock, then a radiator will be a drop in swap.
Good deal. For what you get, the price isn't too bad... Considering Archee's costs about the same, and this will probably outcool it and be lighter. I'm hoping to find something less than $250, that drops in or with minimal work, doesn't require being angled back or stick out 1" above the road... Haven't found it yet... I'll keep looking,
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Amazon.com Radiator

Cheap, stock height so you don't have to angle it.......but..... it's 3" wider than stock. I think max you can go is about 2" without having to take out metal. It would probably require cutting the frame, and boxing it back in on either side. :(
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Hey, didn't someone contact Griffin about a radiator?
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I've got a 4-core in my car. It's not from A.rchie, it originally came from somewhere in the SE US. I thought it was an off the shelf unit, but maybe not.

It's a bit bigger width-wise, but it still dropped right in. It didn't weigh much more than a stock fiero radiator. I'm guessing maybe 5 to 7 lbs or so. Nothing that removing the overflow can won't make negligible.

There's a pic of it floating around the site somewhere. If someone needs pics, let me know.
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whipped wrote:Hey, didn't someone contact Griffin about a radiator?
Working on it. They kinda went bankrupt and getting through to someone in sales has proven to be difficult. If someone has some free time, their number is 1-800-722-3723.

Pro series: 6-284CE-
HP series: 6-584CE-
HP Max: 6-884CE-

I dunno if they are drop in. I don't have a price sheet either :(.
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S8n wrote: Pro series: 6-267CA-
6-284CE? I think you read the firebird radiator :p Considering how the stock v6 radiator can cool about 250-300hp reasonably reliably, I'd say the Pro series, dual 1" rows, would be all you'd ever need. I'm surprised they even list the fiero, that's like... an acknoledgement we exist. I'll try to get ahold of them tomorrow.
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whipped wrote:
S8n wrote: Pro series: 6-267CA-
6-284CE? I think you read the firebird radiator :p Considering how the stock v6 radiator can cool about 250-300hp reasonably reliably, I'd say the Pro series, dual 1" rows, would be all you'd ever need. I'm surprised they even list the fiero, that's like... an acknoledgement we exist. I'll try to get ahold of them tomorrow.
Thanks for the catch! It has been corrected. I work 10-11 hour days and don't have much free time to sit on hold....
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Anytime I call my school I end up being put on hold... Sometimes for hours, so I'm used to it.

"Thank you for contacting us. We will take your call in the order it was received. If you would like to leave a message at any time, please press 1."

Haha... no! :cussing:

At any rate, I have 2 or 3 leads, so hopefully I'll find something soon. It would be nice to drive to Daytona without worrying about overheating.
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Griffin is $334 + 20 shipping... Customer service is lackluster... First time I called they said the radiator didn't exist. Second time I called I got a new person who sounded like he hated the world, but got me the price.
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Any idea about being drop-in?
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It's a part # for a fiero, so I'd say it is
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You hope. I'll keep this in mind for when I need a bigger radiator though. Nice to know there's one out there that stands a very good chance of dropping in.
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Post by whipped »

Tomorrow I'm going to call local radiator repair shops to see if they're up to the task of cutting down the height of one of these radiators to 16"...

Even if it costs $100 to have them weld it back up, it would be cheaper...
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whipped wrote:Griffin is $334 + 20 shipping... Customer service is lackluster... First time I called they said the radiator didn't exist. Second time I called I got a new person who sounded like he hated the world, but got me the price.
Do you remember which part number that price is for? Thanks for making the call.
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S8n wrote:
whipped wrote:Griffin is $334 + 20 shipping... Customer service is lackluster... First time I called they said the radiator didn't exist. Second time I called I got a new person who sounded like he hated the world, but got me the price.
Do you remember which part number that price is for? Thanks for making the call.
That's for the Pro - good to "400hp"... probably good to 500+hp. btw, someone on the other forum said that Ron Davis Radiators might have a cheaper model with "standard chevy" in/outlets. The quote I got from them was apparently for 1 3/8" in/outlets. Once they get back to me, I'll let everyone know, but obviously a custom unit is going to run more than the standard unit... If they can get it down to $240, I'll probably go with them vs cutting up and rewelding the cheap aluminum radiator from speedway.
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Sweet. Keep us posted!
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Post by whipped »

SUCCESS!

Ron Davis radiator #1A-24163 with standard chevy in/outlets, (1.5" inlet, 1.75" outlet) is $239 + 35 (aproximate) shipping.

I probably need new hoses anyways, so that looks like a pretty good deal.
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Cool. Gonna go ahead and order one? Let us know how hard it is to install.
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Post by whipped »

I probably will. I'm debating whether it's smart to install it so close to daytona though... I'd hate to have to miss it because I couldn't get an air bubble out or something. Right now it ain't broke, and I've made longer trips without overheating.......

Plus I still have to tune my short runner intake.
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