Do a SBC!! I did not bad at all, soild everything, cam, and some head work 9.5 to 1. Wow it is FAST! very fun. Ever where I go people say nice car or the typical "fire hazard" But build your SBC to rev. you will be much happier. I shift at 5500 to 6000rpm sounds great!
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Have u taken it to a drag strip, or put it on a dyno; im not trying to be a dick, but a lot of people think stock fieros are fast, im just trying to find out what ur def of fast is.Swamp7 wrote:Do a SBC!! I did not bad at all, soild everything, cam, and some head work 9.5 to 1. Wow it is FAST! very fun. Ever where I go people say nice car or the typical "fire hazard" But build your SBC to rev. you will be much happier. I shift at 5500 to 6000rpm sounds great!
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No strip yet and I could be full of hot air, but I have growen up around hondas and other imports all my life, so comperied to a civic with a b18 swap it's fast.Have u taken it to a drag strip, or put it on a dyno; im not trying to be a dick, but a lot of people think stock fieros are fast, im just trying to find out what ur def of fast is.
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has anyone ever heard of a 377 sbc? you can rev this thing at nine grand all day long and it still wants more. you just need a 400 and destroke it. man i put one in a damn pickup and with the 20 inch wide slicks it'll snap your damn neck. got lumps from the back glass. if your looking for revs and high speed, the best way is to take a big displacement small block and destroke it, thats what they started doing in nascar years ago, obviously with great respone.
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A 377 has the bore of a 400 with a 350 crank. It's the opposite of a 383. It breathes better than a 350 because of the bigger bore and has a slight displacement edge, but doesn't rev any better than a comparably built 350.
If you want to talk wild engines...
Put the 3" crank from a 302 into a 400 block... you now have a 327 that has a lot more potential than GM's 327...
A 347 is a 3.250" stroke in a 400 block and the 377 is the 3.48" stroke in a 400 block (4.125" bore--biggest a small chevy can take reliably).
If you want to talk wild engines...
Put the 3" crank from a 302 into a 400 block... you now have a 327 that has a lot more potential than GM's 327...
A 347 is a 3.250" stroke in a 400 block and the 377 is the 3.48" stroke in a 400 block (4.125" bore--biggest a small chevy can take reliably).
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I love oversquare engines but it goes against what most muscle car guys believe in. TOOORRRQqQUUUEEEE!!!!!
With a weaker drivetrain, an oversquare engine is great. A little less torque for the given displacement but lots of high rpm horsepower potential.
If you build an oversquare engine, make sure you put nice freeflowing parts on it such as aftermarket aluminum heads, cam, rockers, intake and exhaust. A motor might have the ability to rev high, but you want it to be able to make power in the upper rpm range as well.
With a weaker drivetrain, an oversquare engine is great. A little less torque for the given displacement but lots of high rpm horsepower potential.
If you build an oversquare engine, make sure you put nice freeflowing parts on it such as aftermarket aluminum heads, cam, rockers, intake and exhaust. A motor might have the ability to rev high, but you want it to be able to make power in the upper rpm range as well.
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You can still make a 302 from a 350 block which is a wicked destroked engine. I believe its a 289 crank in a 350 block. Don't quote me on that though.
A 302 can make a ton of hp and have less trani snapping torque, it would be nothing to make 350+ hp with the right parts. It would sound like a smallblock, go like a small block and be safer on your transmission.
The fiero getrag isn't made out of glass, the 406sbc I was in made a ton of torque and was on 265 tires. It can withstand quite a bit, but like any trani, it will fail if constantly abused. This is even true with a stock 2.8.
You will be safe with a sbc, and destroked sbcs are just cool.
A 302 can make a ton of hp and have less trani snapping torque, it would be nothing to make 350+ hp with the right parts. It would sound like a smallblock, go like a small block and be safer on your transmission.
The fiero getrag isn't made out of glass, the 406sbc I was in made a ton of torque and was on 265 tires. It can withstand quite a bit, but like any trani, it will fail if constantly abused. This is even true with a stock 2.8.
You will be safe with a sbc, and destroked sbcs are just cool.
K, you're getting me hooked on this destroking idea, if I'm rebuilding it to make sure everythings ship shape and end up taking a look at the bottom end it might be worth it to throw in a new 289 crank or summat to start one of these 302 builds. I don't think a used crank would be a very good idea.
But I need to do some reading first, I don't LIKE the idea of a 5.0L simply BECAUSE it's a 5.0L... and I likes my torque. I'll just need to understand the pros/cons to destroking before I really get into the idea.
Is there much improvement for gas mileage? You say pretty much all smallblocks can be built to rev high, which is true, but 302s rev in a particularly good powerband? Less torque but tonnes of power at the same time?
Time to hit the e-books for me!
Edit: quote from musclecarclub.com
"What you got was a unique 302 cid small block that was created by taking the 327 block and installing the short-stroke 283 crank. Advertised horsepower was listed at just 290bhp, which was not very impressive until one hooked it up to a dyno and got actual readings of 360-400bhp."
How the HELLLL did they do it back then... /drool
But I need to do some reading first, I don't LIKE the idea of a 5.0L simply BECAUSE it's a 5.0L... and I likes my torque. I'll just need to understand the pros/cons to destroking before I really get into the idea.
Is there much improvement for gas mileage? You say pretty much all smallblocks can be built to rev high, which is true, but 302s rev in a particularly good powerband? Less torque but tonnes of power at the same time?
Time to hit the e-books for me!
Edit: quote from musclecarclub.com
"What you got was a unique 302 cid small block that was created by taking the 327 block and installing the short-stroke 283 crank. Advertised horsepower was listed at just 290bhp, which was not very impressive until one hooked it up to a dyno and got actual readings of 360-400bhp."
How the HELLLL did they do it back then... /drool
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Yea besides, you make a 302 from a 327, unless there's a crank that can go in a 350 to bring down the displacement...donk_316 wrote:Good luck finding the 1967 283 crank(not 289 as 289 was a FORD engine)
It needs to be the small / large journal version (cant remember which one since its been 8 years since i cared)
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The 327 is the same block as a 350. The 350 has a longer stroke... I think. The chevy 305 has the same stroke as a 350, just debored.nfswift wrote:Yea besides, you make a 302 from a 327, unless there's a crank that can go in a 350 to bring down the displacement...donk_316 wrote:Good luck finding the 1967 283 crank(not 289 as 289 was a FORD engine)
It needs to be the small / large journal version (cant remember which one since its been 8 years since i cared)