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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_ ... on_7/print


FRom the party that took a golden economy, left a turd, ran up the debt 5T in 8 years..... I give you yet deeper idiocy. These Rep-ugs are like teenage boys. You know the kid that wrecked every car he drove, then tried to tell everyone else how to drive? Well, ladies and gents, I give you..... the Republican Party. You would think that after fucking shit up that bad they would have the cooth to STFU about anything fiscal, but after wrecking the car, several times, they wanna claim that Obama has a bad plan. The hillarity never ends from the party of teenage boys.
Republican leaders continued their attacks on President Barack Obama's handling of the economy Tuesday, calling it irresponsible and certain to increase taxes and federal debt.
The increased the debt 5 trillion in 8 years by:

- overspending
- undertaxing

and now they think they can tax cut our way out of this and lower the debt too. Morons, the politicians and the electorate.

Responding in advance to Obama's televised speech to a joint session of Congress, top Republicans said the president relies too heavily on spending, and not enough on tax cuts, ...

Is anywhere here dumb enough to believ that today, tax cuts = lowerd debt? I can repost that set of data that GT86 chickened out on. GHWB raised taxes, the debt lowered. Clinton furthered that, the debt contimued to lower. GWB lowered taxes, the debt raised. Not to mention GHWB pulled us out of fascist Ronnies recession he inherited when GHWB raised taxes. Good think neo-cons are illitterate or they would havw to admit fault and failure.

They said they want to work with Obama, and sometimes blamed congressional Democrats more than him.
The same Democratic House since 06, tied Senate since 06 that had the balls to override 4 of 10 eligible vetoes? How can you blame them, they did all tehy could and now that they have a huge lead in the House and Senate, their approvals are up. This could be the end of the Repugs for several terms if Obama pulsl this out.

The massive economic stimulus bill recently enacted by Obama and congressional Democrats, Jindal said, will expand the government, "increase our taxes down the line, and saddle future generations with debt."

More hypocrisy from teenagers. The Repubs expanded the gov, they also ran the debt up to astromonmical proportions and in fact are essentially liable for 80%+ of the total, 225+ year debt. Then they have the cookies to blame anyone else?

The tone of the Republicans' response was in keeping with their nearly unanimous opposition to the $787 billion economic stimulus bill, which was backed by only three Republicans in the Senate and none in the House. Some Democrats and independents think the Republicans are blundering and misreading most Americans' sentiments about the need for massive government action to help the economy.

Yes and it's a lose/lose for the the party of the Repugnance. If the stimulus works a bit, the Dems look good, if the stimulus fails, who got us here? They should jon in, but that could be a loser too, due to them looking like followers. They really need to depart from who they are in total and reinvent themselves, but they are still in the denial phase that tahye have been made virtually irrelevant in all of the current political spectrum. The more they resist and perhaps fillibuster a bill, nominee, the longer they will be insignificant.

In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, about three-fourths said Obama was trying to be bipartisan, and almost as many faulted the response of Republican officials, which was seen as politically motivated.
Denial.....tisk, tisk.....fools

Despite such findings, GOP lawmakers say they believe they will be proven right in the long run.

Denial, pls saty there, it will keep you down.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said Tuesday that Republicans want to help Obama find "responsible solutions to the challenges facing our nation, but thus far congressional leaders in the president's own party have stood in the way."
Seriously, Dem leaders in congress, let the Repugs do it, they have done such a bang-up job over the last 3 decades.

Boehner, Jindal and other Republicans repeatedly accused Democrats of wanting to raise taxes, but the Obama-backed stimulus package has extensive tax cuts.
Yes, it is correct to leave taxes where tehy are, then as we pull out of Bush's/Repugs mess Obama will raise taxes enough to balance teh budget eventually and not choke the economy. Really Obama isn't neccessarily that brilliant, he just seems so because he's doing things that are obvious. He's justa guy with ethics, Bush knew what to do, he just couldn't ignore his people (rich).
Jindal acknowledged that to some degree, Republicans deserved the drubbing they took in the last two national elections.

But then he stupidly rambles on about how we should go back to their way? Senseless.


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GOP Gov. Jindal calls Obama's plan irresponsible
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 33 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Republican leaders continued their attacks on President Barack Obama's handling of the economy Tuesday, calling it irresponsible and certain to increase taxes and federal debt.

Responding in advance to Obama's televised speech to a joint session of Congress, top Republicans said the president relies too heavily on spending, and not enough on tax cuts, to try to revive the gasping economy. They said they want to work with Obama, and sometimes blamed congressional Democrats more than him. But their criticisms were sharp and plentiful.

"The way to lead is not to raise taxes and put more money and power in hands of Washington politicians," Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who gave the Republican Party's official response, said in excerpts released early. The massive economic stimulus bill recently enacted by Obama and congressional Democrats, Jindal said, will expand the government, "increase our taxes down the line, and saddle future generations with debt."

"It's irresponsible," said Jindal, who is eyeing a presidential bid in 2012.

The tone of the Republicans' response was in keeping with their nearly unanimous opposition to the $787 billion economic stimulus bill, which was backed by only three Republicans in the Senate and none in the House. Some Democrats and independents think the Republicans are blundering and misreading most Americans' sentiments about the need for massive government action to help the economy.

In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, about three-fourths said Obama was trying to be bipartisan, and almost as many faulted the response of Republican officials, which was seen as politically motivated.

Despite such findings, GOP lawmakers say they believe they will be proven right in the long run.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said Tuesday that Republicans want to help Obama find "responsible solutions to the challenges facing our nation, but thus far congressional leaders in the president's own party have stood in the way."

Boehner, Jindal and other Republicans repeatedly accused Democrats of wanting to raise taxes, but the Obama-backed stimulus package has extensive tax cuts.

Jindal acknowledged that to some degree, Republicans deserved the drubbing they took in the last two national elections.
"Our party got away from its principles," he said. "You elected Republicans to champion limited government, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility. Instead, Republicans went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington." But that is changing, he said.

This was my favorite from him, they went along with it. The Repukes had control the first 6 years, what did the Dems do or drive? In fact, once teh Dems threatened to fillibuster a nominee and the pukes said they would vote to change fillibuster rules to make them illegal. Again, what did the Dems do? All the pork was as a result of Republican majority action.
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The democrats have been in power for 1 month now. Why the fuck hasn't everything been fixed yet? How much has the market dropped since the dems took control? THey are obviously doing a horrible job. Where is the golden egg?
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Shaun41178(2) wrote:The democrats have been in power for 1 month now. Why the fuck hasn't everything been fixed yet? How much has the market dropped since the dems took control? THey are obviously doing a horrible job. Where is the golden egg?

Yea, it's been a month, why don't we all have personal servants? Oh, the market drop, let's examine: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5ED ... =undefined It hasn't been on a downward spiral for a year now? Hardcore for 6 months: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5ED ... =undefined


Your guy has been relegated to 5th worst overall, Obama has a huge approval rating and has been at it 1 month, yet you are still stupid enough to blame him? Rememvber, it took Clinton into his 2nd term to fix the Reagan / Bush mess, and that was with GHWB's ta increase 2 years prior.
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markets down even after obamas speech. WTF. How much has it gone down since he took office? WTF ebineezer. I thought this guy was going to fix everything immediately. Whats taking so long?
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"A Republican will stand up in Congress and say, "I've got a really bad idea." And a Democrat will immediately jump to his feet and declare, "And I can make it shittier." - Lewis Black
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whipped wrote:"A Republican will stand up in Congress and say, "I've got a really bad idea." And a Democrat will immediately jump to his feet and declare, "And I can make it shittier." - Lewis Black
ROFL

I fucking love that guy.
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whipped wrote:"A Republican will stand up in Congress and say, "I've got a really bad idea." And a Democrat will immediately jump to his feet and declare, "And I can make it shittier." - Lewis Black

God that's hillarious, wherever do you get your material. Hey, here's an example of the Dems making things worse:

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html Of course those are just pesky data, all neo-cons disregard.

Also, you just quoted and embracd a person who's a self-proclaimed socilaist, noce one, Spanky.

Black describes his political affiliation as such: "I'm a socialist, so that puts me totally outside any concept...the Canadians get it. But seriously, most people don't get it. The idea of capping people's income just scares people. 'Oh, you're taking money from the rich.' Ooh, what a horrifying thing. These people really need $200 million".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Black


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EBSB52 wrote: Taking candy from a baby......
lol, +1 for you!

You sure are kicking ass in this most meaningful and important debate.
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Actually Obamas approval rating came down... not a lot, but its not going up anymore... And you are so hell bent on... something, that you can't appreciate a joke. Obama won't make a second term, I'll put my car on it.
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Way to ruin the joke, Eb.
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Xanth wrote:
EBSB52 wrote: Taking candy from a baby......
lol, +1 for you!

You sure are kicking ass in this most meaningful and important debate.

I'm losing the rhetoric debate, but winning uncontested with the constructive argument deabte. Actually I'm unopposed, as no neo-cons will address teh issues, just ask 86GT and the tax raising issue. Oh, sorry, there I go bringing facts and data in.
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CincinnatiFiero wrote:Actually Obamas approval rating came down... not a lot, but its not going up anymore... And you are so hell bent on... something, that you can't appreciate a joke. Obama won't make a second term, I'll put my car on it.

I think they shadowed down a hair and congressional Dems increased, congressional R's fell. By the time Obama runs, your car will be run-out, no bet. Odds are high that an R won't be elected in 2012 as pres. We're at GD numbers, or we would be if we had my friends in here cutting taxes, not applying any social spending, the R's put us here again, they will remain insignificant for quite a while.
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EBSB52 wrote:
Xanth wrote:
EBSB52 wrote: Taking candy from a baby......
lol, +1 for you!

You sure are kicking ass in this most meaningful and important debate.

I'm losing the rhetoric debate, but winning uncontested with the constructive argument deabte. Actually I'm unopposed, as no neo-cons will address teh issues, just ask 86GT and the tax raising issue. Oh, sorry, there I go bringing facts and data in.
Not being engaged by anyone isn't the same as winning. We're all in agreement here that you're not worth the effort as you refuse to acknowledge that anyone who disagrees with you has any valid point whatsoever.
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EBSB52 wrote:
CincinnatiFiero wrote:Actually Obamas approval rating came down... not a lot, but its not going up anymore... And you are so hell bent on... something, that you can't appreciate a joke. Obama won't make a second term, I'll put my car on it.

I think they shadowed down a hair and congressional Dems increased, congressional R's fell. By the time Obama runs, your car will be run-out, no bet. Odds are high that an R won't be elected in 2012 as pres. We're at GD numbers, or we would be if we had my friends in here cutting taxes, not applying any social spending, the R's put us here again, they will remain insignificant for quite a while.

WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE... are you some sort of political figure or are you using the employee break room computer at walmart pretending you are important by bitching at a bunch of "rednecks" on the internet.
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Nevermind dude, I figured out how to block you, don't waste you finger strength.
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CincinnatiFiero wrote:Nevermind dude, I figured out how to block you, don't waste you finger strength.
lol, not much point in doing so really. He never posts in actual Fiero stuff.
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who was the democrat that peed on people during his victory party? Yes eb a democrat.

And why was the market down again today? Why hasn't the market jumped back up since the dems took office? I don't get it.
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EBSB52 wrote:
whipped wrote:"A Republican will stand up in Congress and say, "I've got a really bad idea." And a Democrat will immediately jump to his feet and declare, "And I can make it shittier." - Lewis Black

God that's hillarious, wherever do you get your material. Hey, here's an example of the Dems making things worse:
ugh... would it jive more with your paradigm to switch Democrat and Republican in the joke?

God damn... Lighten up Alice.
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First of all, your rant on Republicans is pointless. The Democrats are just as bad.

Secondly... Best of luck in the future, all your fancy words and political rhetoric won't get you anywhere when hordes of people are storming your door for whatever food and water you have left.

At this point, you better start buying guns, ammo, water filters, and food... because all these books you read that make you SOO smart, aint gonna do you shit.
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DiggityBiggity wrote:First of all, your rant on Republicans is pointless. The Democrats are just as bad.

Secondly... Best of luck in the future, all your fancy words and political rhetoric won't get you anywhere when hordes of people are storming your door for whatever food and water you have left.

At this point, you better start buying guns, ammo, water filters, and food... because all these books you read that make you SOO smart, aint gonna do you shit.

How is it that Obama's plans to bring asset from the gov, from the rich to the poor is going to create an environment of havoc? Look at the GD, that was the result; havoc, sit back and let the free market fix it all. Apathy, as you would serve up, is what took the GD from a crisis to an epidemic. I just cannot see how you don't see that. The history books reveal Hoover's apathy until the last year and show how he relied upon the companies to save the day, hell, they were saving their own asses.

I have plenty of guns and ammo, so if there is an attack on my home I will be prepared. This won't be the case, if it gets that bad Obama will distribute food to the streets, sorry to ruin your conspiracy.

I'm surprised to read that you denounce education. That site you placed up was pretty work intensive, I was impressed. It was a little conspiracy-oriented than I was willing to buy into, but as most things, I'm sure some of what you posted is true. And here you are denouncing things w/o any supporting detail. Let's start with this:

How is NAFTA, an agreement signed by GHWB, passed by congress and accepted into US law by Clinton a bad thing since it deregulates? Isn't that what you stand for, a lassies-fare government? Isn't a free market what you order as the fix? I despised NAFTA because I like regulation. I just don't get it, make me understand.


BTW, almost missed it, what have the Dems done that is, by you, considered a bad thing and why.
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