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Freeway Chase - What Would You Do?

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So I was driving home from work last night, it was about midnight and I was in my silver car - an 86' base model auto/duke. It works fine for commuting (imagine that), but I'd soon wish I had the DOHC GT on the road.

I'm on eastbound 4 approaching Pittsburg, where it's 4 lanes, cruising in the second lane from the left, when these headlights come out of nowhere and plant themselves about 10 feet back from my bumper - way too close for 80 MPH. I give him a minute to see if he drifts back some, and he doesn't. Asshole. So I let off the gas so he's gotta back off a bit. He comes right back up and then starts flashing the high beams. So I just stay there at 80 - if he really wants to go fast there's a completely empty lane to the left. He follows me for a couple minutes, then passes me on the left slowly... and pulls up right beside me and hangs there. It's a 70's chevy truck, single cab, C or K? Dunno. There's 3 greasy lookin sorta guys inside. So they're just hanging there.

I'm more curious than worried though I go through my evasion options in my head. I probably can't outrun them with the truly race bred auto/duke powertrain, but I can comfortably outhandle a beat 70's chevy truck with the new tires and suspension overhauling I just did. I can also probably outbrake them, too.

So they're on my left window, so I get tired of it and switch a lane over, and they switch over, over one more and get behind me again. Ok, they don't want to give up. I'm in the 3rd lane from the left and I'm coming up on a bigrig truck, so I go to the 4th lane to pass him on the right with the idea of using it as moving cover. The truck breaks from behind me, and goes left around the truck, figuring it'll catch up to me on the other side. He goes left around the rig, then has to get left one more to pass a car in that lane. The car is going faster than the bigrig, and I hit the brakes to drift back from the bigrig, so I disappear behind them. They get up there and I'm gone. I go back to the 2nd lane, while they're up ahead. Lost em.

So I'm cruising along, and they're up there slowed down to 45, waiting for me. They just won't give it up. I start checking my car: No weapons onboard, 1/4 tank of fuel - good for about 50 miles of this while I call in backup if need be. I figure that if it comes down to it, I'll bring them back to the streets of antioch (which I know well) and drag them through neighborhoods at 50+ mph, all 90 degree turns, of course. It wouldn't be about speed, but whoever can repeatedly corner faster. If the cops show up? Great, they'll probably take the opportunity to arrest both of us and claim we were dangerous street racers hellbent on killing kids and kittens at midnight, but at least it's marginally better than getting in a street fight with 3 guys. I'll LOOSE THEM IN TEH TWISTIEZ LOLOL!!! /PEE-F-F.

They're on my right window again, and they're revving a litle bit, so I decide to put the hammer down to see what happens. We bring it up to 95 (where I maxout), and believe it or not, I'm very slowly inching away from them. Not enough to be of any use, but I was somewhat amused. They're back behind me again when we hit a traffic wall. They come up beside me again, and I nail the brakes and they go past me and then CUT in front of this big SUV. SUV gets pissed and nails them with the high beams, and in reply the truck driver starts WHIPPING the truck back and forth so hard you could see the tires tucking under. Back and forth, all over both lanes coming into Antioch. I swear they almost got it around before yanking it right and shooting off onto the Contra Loma exit.

Seriously though? WTF?
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umm...arent you the guy who stole the C6 corvette?
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Should have done the Pitman manuever on them.

I just saw a video from an english site on how to drive like James Bond. Best motoring maybe? Not sure.

Anyways they show tricks on how to get out of situations in an SUV. Pretty cool. would have been an appropriate time to post the link, but I dont' remember where I saw it. Visit way too many boards.
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Post by whipped »

they were trying to tell you you were leaking fuel!

I had something similar happen a couple years ago. Was driving on the highway, and this guy in the lane next to me starts honking his horn, signalling me to pull over...

I was like, wtf? I figure I'll either get robbed, or he'll tell me something's wrong with my car. I take the chance and pull over. He whips around behind me, gets out, and the following takes place:

"Hey man, I'm a deliveryman for an electronics store. The warehouse sent me 2 extra (insert cool home stereos). It wasn't on the invoice, but these babies are worth $1200 ea. If you want one, I'll cut you a deal for $350."

"I don't have any money, sorry. Sounds sweet though..."

"You fucking wasted my time."

*speeds off in his delivery van*

haha... that was so wierd.
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Post by zonyl »

I had something similar happen to me many years ago, when I was living in Chicago:

On the 294 Tollway going south just before the Airport. It was hot, had no air in the Fiero, so the windows and sunroof open. I am cruising in the fast lane following someone going 80, with about a 2 car gap, in moderate traffic. A green rusted Maverick comes barreling down the road behind me in the rear view, going real fast, dodging cars, etc.

As he approaches me in the middle lane, I close the gap to under a car length (close as I can get without being stupid) Minivan behind me in fast lane does the same (typical midwestren hospitality ;) ) and rides my ass. Undaunted, the Maverick still wedges himself in between me and the car ahead of me, causing me to brake and veer a little into e-lane. Pisses me off, so I honk and flip the bird.

See / hear brakelights / squealing from the maverick!! I have been brake checked before, but never had someone locked up the wheels doing it. Thank god I could hear the tires lock as that sound threw me into panic mode. I veer into e-lane, however, the minivan wasnt so lucky and BOOM, slams into the maverick.

I am shaking like a a child as I pull back into the lane, my heart pounding. I wasnt sure if I should stop and be a witness to this for the police or what. As I am thinking, Im slowing down and suddenly see smoke and maverick barreling down the tollway behind me again! Had enough of this, so I speed up and call the roadside assitance number on my bag phone. They transfer me to police dispatch and explain what happened, while the maverick is trying like hell to catch up but wasnt as fast as it was now.

Police tell me to take to take the Roosevelt exit where they would have a squad meet me. I pull off the freeway onto Roosevelt and the maverick didnt follow (or lost him) Sat with the officer for a while explaining what happened (left out the speeding / finger / cutting him off business of course), got a description of car and the guy, my contact info, etc. Found out that the driver of minivan was being taken to hospital and in bad shape.
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That's some crazy Thunderdome shit right there.

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See what's in the bottom of my trunk? Never leave home without it. The ONE time that I did, I had some crazy jackass in a 83 tBird come flying up on me in a school zone. I gave him the stinkeye in my rearview, sat up in my seat, and blipped it. That put me a half block away from him, and here he comes again! And of course they're all loc'd out pelons. Great news for my cracker ass.
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Donk - I didn't really steal a C6 ZO6, but I wish I did! It was a photoshop Series8217 did of a picture my buddy took of me sitting in the ZO6 at the Int'l Auto Show in SF. I also got one sitting in the Solstice (I actually fit). Yeah, it was me, no I didn't steal it, but they had to pry me out of the drivers seat with a crowbar and clean up after. Pics thread?

Yeah, I was going through my options as I drove along. I figure that if I couldn't lose them, I'd go ripping through the neighborhoods. It's a time honored technique stemming back from when we were younger and somehow got into car chases often with other kids back in the days. We got away everyt time that way. Another technique that worked was to run into a court or something, then slam into reverse, square the wheel and get it around and power out of there. They'd either have to do the same, or take precious time reversing and/or turning around. Another option is to call for friends with big trucks to come out and play wingman/escort. My last option was go to somewhere there was people and get ready to beat some ass, and hopefully not get my ass kicked/shot in the process. 3 to one isn't so good though. I'm 6'2" and lift hundreds of lbs of ice sculptures up onto tables every day, so I could be worse off, I guess. Thankfully, the problem took care of itself.

I did see somebody leaking fuel once though and followed, honked, and pointed. They musta had a hole the size of my dick in their fuel tank, cuz they musta lost 10-15 gallons of gas in the few minutes it took them to finally pull into the Costco parking lot. I bet they went shopping, too. Morons. Somebody selling electronics? Now THAT's a new one to me.

Zonyl - your story beats mine. Geez what a dumbshit. Glad you got out ok. And Stimpy, er, I mean Mr. Stillwell - somebody once told me that I should carry a bat, a ball, and a glove in my trunk. The reason being that out of context, the bat becomes a deadly weapon in the eyes of law enforcement, or something. But in context with a ball and glove, is a sporting implement. Go California. I guess a .45 is out of the question.
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whipped wrote:I had something similar happen a couple years ago. Was driving on the highway, and this guy in the lane next to me starts honking his horn, signalling me to pull over...

I was like, wtf? I figure I'll either get robbed, or he'll tell me something's wrong with my car. I take the chance and pull over. He whips around behind me, gets out, and the following takes place:

"Hey man, I'm a deliveryman for an electronics store. The warehouse sent me 2 extra (insert cool home stereos). It wasn't on the invoice, but these babies are worth $1200 ea. If you want one, I'll cut you a deal for $350."

"I don't have any money, sorry. Sounds sweet though..."

"You fucking wasted my time."

*speeds off in his delivery van*

haha... that was so wierd.
Actually that guy was going to rob you. How many people carry $350 on them? Not many. The gullible person would be like "That's cool, but I don't have the money" The bad guy would be like "Well I'll follow you to the ATM and you can pull out the cash, I know where ther's one near by". Gullible person "Well ok, I'll follow you"

When you get there, you pull out the cash, he holds you up, steals your money, or if he saw your PIN#, he would probably beat the shit out of you, take your bank card and get whatever else he could.
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Post by zonyl »

jstillwell wrote:Image

That's some crazy Thunderdome shit right there.

See what's in the bottom of my trunk? Never leave home without it. The ONE time that I did, I had some crazy jackass in a 83 tBird come flying up on me in a school zone. I gave him the stinkeye in my rearview, sat up in my seat, and blipped it. That put me a half block away from him, and here he comes again! And of course they're all loc'd out pelons. Great news for my cracker ass.
Nice! That event changed my whole attitude towards instigating road rage. However, I have since obtained a handgun and a concealed cary license, just-in-case. Problem is that I cant carry it out of state yet.
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Post by whipped »

God wrote: Actually that guy was going to rob you.
no, he actually showed me the new in box stereos he had in his van...

well... I guess they could've been props... :scratch:
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Nah, that's a different scam.

Those speakers are worth about $20. MAYBE. That's all those guys do all day is drive around in those vans and throw that rap about "we got done putting in speakers at a nightclub and we have extras, and if we take them back my boss will just take the money yadda yadda..."

When I was aaron's age I went to go answer an ad for those guys to go sell that shit. Unfortunately I have ethics, so I couldn't do it.
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I used to carry an honest-to-goodness katana in my Fiero. I think just the sight of it drawn would probably send most groups of people away unless they have guns. Most people don't appreciate a 27" blade in a fight ;-)
I don't keep it with me now due to what Blue Shift mentioned.
Not sure I could get away with telling them I just bought it as a gift for someone (I would have to keep a recent receipt with me..)

Its in a pretty obvious place. I guess the CHP isnt too smart about swords. I've never been pulled over..
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zonyl wrote: I have since obtained a handgun and a concealed cary license, just-in-case. Problem is that I cant carry it out of state yet.
Are you sure?
Check out http://www.packing.org/ if you haven't already.

There's a search engine on the upper left. Just select your state from the drop down. You'll be asked to read and acknowledge a disclaimer, then you'll get a page with the pertinent gun laws, as well as states who honor your permit.

Gotta love Georgia. The only neighboring state that doesn't honor my permit is S.C. Not that I ever go there.
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BigRedDeckSpoiler wrote:
zonyl wrote: I have since obtained a handgun and a concealed cary license, just-in-case. Problem is that I cant carry it out of state yet.
Are you sure?
Check out http://www.packing.org/ if you haven't already.

There's a search engine on the upper left. Just select your state from the drop down. You'll be asked to read and acknowledge a disclaimer, then you'll get a page with the pertinent gun laws, as well as states who honor your permit.

Gotta love Georgia. The only neighboring state that doesn't honor my permit is S.C. Not that I ever go there.
Awesome! Thanks for the link, Ill have to verify that as I had thought SC wasnt friendly to me either (I live in Charlotte) last time I had looked. I hadnt checked in quite a while, it appears WI is still not friendly, and I drive there about twice a year to visit relatives (going there next week)
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Funny, I had something like this happen to me a few weeks ago actually...

My wife and I were heading ou of town to go to a movie, we passed a newer chevy pickup on the way out of town. He was in the fast lane heading out of town and I was beside him. The speed limit changed from 70km/h to 110km/h and he was slow accelerating so I went into the right lane and passed him. I actually flored the car, because I like the sound of the Intrepids 2.7 dohc.

Anyways, the guy gets in behind me, I'm doing 20 over the limit with the radar detector on and he is riding my ass. He must have been closer than 20 feet which isn't much room at 85 or so mph. I don't think much about it but I was getting annoyed at the headlights comming right into the back of my car. I Floor it and go 160km/h for 30 seconds, he falls hehind but I can tell he is accelerating. I get back down to 130 where I had the cruise set before and he comes flying up on my ass again. This is where I'm getting alittle concerned, never know what psycho's are on the road.

The devided highway is ending soon so I picked up speed and got around some traffic. The devided highway ends, he is stuck behind slow moving trafic, but I keep my speed up to put some distance between us. The speed limit is now 100km/h, I'm doing 120. About 5 minutes down the road the psycho is flying up on my ass and does the usual 20 feet behind the car.

We come up to a passing lane and he doesn't pass me. He just hangs there. I'm already pissed off at this point, I know I can outrun him if I have to, but I decided to play with him a bit. I manually put my Intrepid into 3rd gear and engine brake, I get all the way down to 80km/h before he goes around me. I let him get ahead a ways, the devided highway is comming up soon.

When we hit the devided highway he is going slow. I set my cruise for 130km/h again and go past him and get back into the right lane. He catches right up, 20ft behind me again.... By this point I'm convinced he is psycho so I pull into the left hand lane, wait for the very last second and step hard on the brake to make a left hand turn. There is no way he could follow me if he wanted and he kept going straight.

I waited there for a few minutes explaining to my wife what is going on, up to this point she was oblivious to what was happening.

I think I will follow Stimpy's advice and carry a bat in my trunk from now on, there are just too many lunatics out there....
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Post by Kohburn »

had a much shorter but similar incident this morning after church..

I stop at a light in the right lane - there are actually 3 lanes going straigh but the one to the far right merges in after about 200feet..

a deisel dually pulls up in the right lane and i think nothing of it - the light turns green and i start to accelerate at my usual pace for the subaru - a quick pace but nothing forced.. and this truck is sitting righ at my rear wheel.. get the the point where his lane is gone and he is still there - i'm like WTF.. so i brake and he goes by and merges on from the shoulder.. all this time he could have just gone in behind me, there were no cars..

so i just cruise along at about 5-10 over like normal and the truck is just cruising along at the same speed right infront of me then turns off about 2 lighs up.. did he really need to save the extra .5 seconds? i saw a woman int he car with him - i hope it was his wife and she bitched him out for hours after that.

what is wrong with idiots on the road these days?
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Post by MNFatz »

You know...

This has been bugging me since I saw it on '60 minutes' a few years back.

They dug up this hermit from the southwest united states that off the scale in the IQ dept. He does electronics work of a theoretical nature. They never did say who he worked for other than he's involved with DARPA. He must be good because he looked like street bum and they're still paying him.

Anyway. The guy setup a small rig about 20 feet in front of either a beretta or corsica, I can't remember. He pushed a button on his little machine and the car shut down. His rig was a multi-frequency electronic jammer.

Wouldn't that be seriously kick ass for tailgaters? How in the hell would you get caught? :la:
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MNFatz wrote:You know...

This has been bugging me since I saw it on '60 minutes' a few years back.

They dug up this hermit from the southwest united states that off the scale in the IQ dept. He does electronics work of a theoretical nature. They never did say who he worked for other than he's involved with DARPA. He must be good because he looked like street bum and they're still paying him.

Anyway. The guy setup a small rig about 20 feet in front of either a beretta or corsica, I can't remember. He pushed a button on his little machine and the car shut down. His rig was a multi-frequency electronic jammer.

Wouldn't that be seriously kick ass for tailgaters? How in the hell would you get caught? :la:
haha... yeah, every car within a 10 yards suddenly dies... Yours included. That won't be suspicious... :p
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MNFatz wrote:You know...

...The guy setup a small rig about 20 feet in front of either a beretta or corsica, I can't remember. He pushed a button on his little machine and the car shut down. His rig was a multi-frequency electronic jammer.
Google "EMP"

It's probably an electromagnetic pulse generator of some sort. I've heard of one being laid in the road, and disabling a car that was driven over it. Kind of like a spike strip for the engine electronics. IIRC it had a cord, though, and had to be triggered. Doesn't sound like something that could be aimed or focused without killing your own car.
Pulses like that tend to be "equal opportunity".
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Post by Kohburn »

but if you have sheilding or an old carb setup the worst it should really do is make your car stumble for a moment
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