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G6 transmission
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:04 pm
by EBSB52
Using the 6 speed, you have to use different 1/2 shafts, yes? Is GM that cool to where the Fiero shafts fit by chance (or design)? Anyone know? If not, What shafts do you use?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:06 pm
by Series8217
I do know that the Fiero shafts do not work.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:09 pm
by dratts
There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:39 pm
by EBSB52
dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:57 pm
by Indy
EBSB52 wrote:dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?
Yes, the axle issues are major. V8Archie is V8 Archee.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:33 pm
by EBSB52
Indy wrote:EBSB52 wrote:dratts wrote:There is a guy on Old Europe who has done a lot of this and V8Archie has a kit.
So is it a big deal? Are the lengths the same, just diff inbd ends? Who's V8Archie?
Yes, the axle issues are major. V8Archie is V8 Archee.
Is it expensive?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:43 am
by crzyone
Eb, what the heck are you doing out of anything goes???

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:30 am
by Fastback86
I thought I remember one of the guys who did and Ecotec conversion (wtfb maybe?) saying that the Fiero 4spd axles fit perfect in the G6 transmission...anyone else remember?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:57 am
by The Dark Side of Will
If he did he doesn't know what he's talking about. All the Fiero stickshift axles are the same.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:58 am
by EBSB52
crzyone wrote:Eb, what the heck are you doing out of anything goes???

I'm lost :scratch:
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:09 am
by Kohburn
you have to get someone to make custom half shaft using the g6 inner joint and the fiero outter cv joint and sticking a new custom shaft int he middle. not really difficult.
that hardest part is just finding someone that will do it.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:58 am
by dratts
V8Archie want $1700 for the installation kit which includes the axles. He hasn't done a N* yet, but says he's willing if he gets the dimensions of the clutch flywheel etc. The G6 uses a dual mass flywheel.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:30 pm
by EBSB52
Kohburn wrote:you have to get someone to make custom half shaft using the g6 inner joint and the fiero outter cv joint and sticking a new custom shaft int he middle. not really difficult.
that hardest part is just finding someone that will do it.
Yea, that makes great sense and easy. Actually you could get the tube, cut and fit it and have it welded; yes/no??? Any special tube or just steel 1.5 times thicker wall than the stock fiero.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:31 pm
by EBSB52
dratts wrote:V8Archie want $1700 for the installation kit which includes the axles. He hasn't done a N* yet, but says he's willing if he gets the dimensions of the clutch flywheel etc. The G6 uses a dual mass flywheel.
Ouch :bootyshake: . H+Just curious, why would the clutch matter for teh 1/2 shafts? The wall thickness?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:56 pm
by The Dark Side of Will
Think about Rchee's primary market... I think his flywheels use the Chevy ring gear in the Chevy location with the Fiero clutch bolt pattern.
He's got to do a whole lot of shennanigans in order to get his 17 year old flywheel design to work with the new deeper bellhousing that the G6 transmission has.
On the bright side, it does have a deep enough bellhousing for a three disk Tilton.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:09 pm
by Boscolingus
so what would be the breakdown?
- axles made, no big deal WCF has them made up for the 3800 kits all day long
- mounts and brackets, once again see above
- shift cables
- shifter
- flywheel
- clutch kit
- details regarding speedo
- and of course the transmission
did I miss anything?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:30 pm
by Boscolingus
FGP Germany F40 (MT2) ---- Pontiac G6 Transmission
Type:
transverse front wheel drive, six-speed manual transaxle
Engine range:
3.9L HVV6 (LZ9)
Maximum engine torque:
245 lb-ft (333 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque:
295 lb-ft (400 Nm)
Gear ratios:
MT2
First:
3.77
Second:
2.04
Third:
1.32
Fourth:
0.95
Fifth:
0.76
Sixth:
0.62
Reverse:
3.54
Final drive
3.55
Maximum validated gross vehicle weight:
3527 lb (1600 kg)
Case material:
aluminum
Center distance:
197 mm
Fluid type:
Castrol BOT 0063
Transmission weight:
56 kg (123.5 lb)
Fluid capacity (approximate):
3.1L / 3.27 qt (dry)
Power take off:
no
Applications:
Pontiac G6
check out.....
http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/ ... s.html#mt2
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:50 pm
by The Dark Side of Will
Boscolingus wrote:
3.77
2.04
1.32
0.95
0.76
0.62
Final drive
3.55
Who comes up with these shitty ridiculous gear ratios? Dam.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:02 pm
by p8ntman442
well incase you lose 5th you have 6th. WTF is the point besides saying 6spd to compete with nissan and the like?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:05 pm
by The Dark Side of Will
GM doesn't understand a lot of things. Among them are small FWD cars and manual transmissions.