Bought a DSM today. Now what mods?!

Fast88Fiero · Post by **Fast88Fiero** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:32 am

Today I purchased a 90 AWD Turbo 5 speed eagle talon. Someone traded it in on a new car because the turbo on the talon is broken. The interior and body are in really good shape. I only paid $400 for the car (running and driving). I'm getting a big 16G turbo, 3"down pipe and 3" exhaust this weekend for it. I was wondering if anyone here knew of any other mods to do to it. I know there's a ton more mods, but this car is going to be my new daily driver so I want it somewhat reliable (If DSM's were ever reliable). I wouldnt mind driving a 12 second car every day. :thumbleft:

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:47 am

I feel I can now come out and openly express this.

I love you :love4:

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:53 am

other then the upgrades you have planned already, you need fuel

550's will probably be more then good and a fuel computer like an SAFC. Hell 440's might do it.

Boost controller will be needed. Perhaps a new BOV or do the dent mod on the stock one.

Air intake of course, perhaps a bigger intercooler when you can.

In the meantime I suggest getting the stock one cleaned out. Its prob got a ton of sludge in it making it practically useless.

Also new uppipe

Buscher racing will have a lot of what you need.

I suggest dsmforums.com (I think) for used parts for decent prices.

All that should be good for 350 crank pending on tune and boooooooooost

Fast88Fiero · Post by **Fast88Fiero** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:12 am

Thats what I was planning. I'm also going to port the stock exhaust manifold because I've heard they are restrictive. I'm not sure what boost I'm planning on running, maybe 16-18PSI. I'm also going to be getting a lightweight flywheel and a ACT 2600 clutch for it. This should turn out to be a pretty nice daily driver. :flipa:

Doug Chase · Post by **Doug Chase** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:48 am

Shaun41178(2) wrote:I feel I can now come out and openly express this.

I love you :love4:

Damn, dude, you're sure in a loving mood tonight: phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1097

Fast88Fiero, good score! I'm jealous. I want a $600 TSi! Even before the upgrade you can probably have that sucker back in working order for $300!

Keep us posted. Pictures?

Fast88Fiero · Post by **Fast88Fiero** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:41 am

Doug Chase wrote:
Shaun41178(2) wrote:I feel I can now come out and openly express this.

I love you :love4:
Damn, dude, you're sure in a loving mood tonight: phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1097

Fast88Fiero, good score! I'm jealous. I want a $600 TSi! Even before the upgrade you can probably have that sucker back in working order for $300!

Keep us posted. Pictures?

I'm taking my digital camera to work with me tomorrow so I can snap some pictures. :thumbleft:

Fast88Fiero · Post by **Fast88Fiero** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:19 pm

Shitty Pictures:

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:23 pm

Fast88Fiero wrote:Thats what I was planning. I'm also going to port the stock exhaust manifold because I've heard they are restrictive. I'm not sure what boost I'm planning on running, maybe 16-18PSI. I'm also going to be getting a lightweight flywheel and a ACT 2600 clutch for it. This should turn out to be a pretty nice daily driver. :flipa:

Heh... won't be a "nice" daily with a 2600... it'll be dailyable, just not very nice. Include the cost of a billet shift fork in your clutch budget.

Friend of mine has a 2G Talon that has cracked 11's. It's pretty nice, but he runs 21 psi on 93 octane.

Post by **eHoward** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:25 pm

awesome find! keep us updated on the mods you do.

The Dark Side of Will · Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:26 pm

Shaun41178(2) wrote:other then the upgrades you have planned already, you need fuel

550's will probably be more then good and a fuel computer like an SAFC. Hell 440's might do it.

Boost controller will be needed. Perhaps a new BOV or do the dent mod on the stock one.

Air intake of course, perhaps a bigger intercooler when you can.

In the meantime I suggest getting the stock one cleaned out. Its prob got a ton of sludge in it making it practically useless.

Also new uppipe

Buscher racing will have a lot of what you need.

I suggest dsmforums.com (I think) for used parts for decent prices.

All that should be good for 350 crank pending on tune and boooooooooost

Screw the SAFC. Throw that thing in the trash and get DSMLink for 1G's when it comes out (might already be out). www.dsmlink.com

Don't DSM's already have 450's stock?

Big intercooler is a must. Bigger turbo, too. You'll get bored with the 16G really quickly.

www.dsmtalk.com is another good site.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:26 pm

find a stock 14b and throw it on there and I will give you $600 for it.

Oh yea and a 2600 lb pressure plate is tough dude.

maybe a 2200 or abouts would be better.

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:37 pm

http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/8.55@176.9.mpg

http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/9.3@177.5.wmv
In car

Doug Chase · Post by **Doug Chase** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:07 am

Shaun41178(2) wrote:http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/8.55@176.9.mpg

http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/9.3@177.5.wmv
In car

10 Grand!!

And if I read the Autometer catalog right, that boost guage says 50psi.

Everything in that video is impressive.

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:52 pm

4G63 and 4G64 are STOUT engines and can be built to be absolutely CRAZY.

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:56 pm

Shaun41178(2) wrote:http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/8.55@176.9.mpg

Video's playing normal speed but looks like it's fast forward. LOL.

http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/9.3@177.5.wmv
In car

Who's car is that? Finishes the 1/4 in 4th gear... Makes me think he's running a Magnus Dogbox.
Wonder what he's doing for engine management... whatever it is, he sure could use some anti-lag.

Kohburn · Post by **Kohburn** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:16 pm

The Dark Side of Will wrote:
Shaun41178(2) wrote:http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/8.55@176.9.mpg
Video's playing normal speed but looks like it's fast forward. LOL.

http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/9.3@177.5.wmv
In car
Who's car is that? Finishes the 1/4 in 4th gear... Makes me think he's running a Magnus Dogbox.
Wonder what he's doing for engine management... whatever it is, he sure could use some anti-lag.

when his shifts drop him down to 8000 rpm i'd think so

The Dark Side of Will · Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:02 pm

You mean wrt anti-lag or transmission.
Actually the Magnus box does not have a very tight ratio spread.

Fast88Fiero · Post by **Fast88Fiero** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:43 pm

Took off the crappy broken stock turbo today and installed the Big 16G. I removed the fucking exhaust since someone cut the flex piece out of the down pipe and clamped in a tube and did a really shitty job installing a cat, so the car is running with an open downpipe right now. It still needs plugs and wries since it has champion plugs and some shit autozone wires. It pulls pretty good once the turbo spools now. I need to get the 3" down pipe, 3" exhaust and some hard charge pipes now. I'm happy. :love10:

Shaun41178(2) · Post by **Shaun41178(2)** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:22 pm

http://www.club-swat.com/~bren/s8vsant.mpg

Talon is a 91 AWD w/ a 16G setup Exhaust, AFC Tuned, mbc, o2 dump, fmic, tial bov, hks 264/272

S8 is bone stock 360 hp.

3rd gear roll 50 mph

txf · Post by **txf** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:15 pm

He wasn't lagging until he let out of it on the launch after he broke them loose. His boost was up until then.